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fortheo said:
It was a very respectful call out from Jack that seemed to completely fly under the radar. Not sure if it even is a call out, but I guess he clearly wants to fight guy lol:
"I reckon Shavkat Rakhmonov is one of the better welterweights at the moment. It would honestly be a massive honour to fight him because I think he’s one of the best guys out there. I’m not going to call out the guys at the top because I know that’s not how it works but I know he’s not at the top of the top so it’s not disrespectful to call him out or anything.
And I think he’s extremely good, so I feel like if I can beat him, I can definitely hang with the top five. But yeah, it’s not like I’m not calling anyone out or anything, but that would be an incredible matchup honestly."https://www.givemesport.com/88022603-jack-della-maddalena-shavkat-rakhmonov-ufc-next-fight
Looks like Geoff Neal called out Shavkat too - and yeah, I'd say that's a call out - a nice, clean, highly respectful call out (of sorts)
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Siver! said:
Looks like Geoff Neal called out Shavkat too - and yeah, I'd say that's a call out - a nice, clean, highly respectful call out (of sorts)
Geoff neal did? I thought Neal wasn't interested in that fight. Hopefully all of them can get a fight soon. They're all exciting fighters
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fortheo said:
Geoff neal did? I thought Neal wasn't interested in that fight. Hopefully all of them can get a fight soon. They're all exciting fighters
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https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/geoff-neal-answers-shavkats-callout.4259032/
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I know it's super short notice, but if he's willing to fight ASAP Neil Magny just lost his opponent for October 15th(D-Rod).
Magny would most likely be willing to accept it and maybe make it a catchweight if Jack can't make weltweeight in that short of a period.
Overall it's a long shot to make it happen, that being said if Jack beats Magny it would shoot him right up into the top fifteen and he'll have more opportunities to fight bigger names.
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Also a very legitimate defensive grappler as he showed on both DWCS and against Emeev.
Dudes actually got pretty strong kicks from the rear leg too. I think because he's a pasty Aussie with a cow-lick people don't realize it but the dude is pretty f*cking athletic and jacked.
Also he was out for a while because he and his wife just had a kid.
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he needs a ranked opponent, Magny or Chiesa.
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fortheo said:
Last I heard from Della maddelena, he was calling out shavkat. It seems like nothing came of it, though.
Shavkat is fighting Geoff Neal I think
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he needs a ranked opponent, Magny or Chiesa.
Daniel Rodriguez would be a cool one too.
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HuskySamoan said:
Dudes actually got pretty strong kicks from the rear leg too. I think because he's a pasty Aussie with a cow-lick people don't realize it but the dude is pretty f*cking athletic and jacked.
Also he was out for a while because he and his wife just had a kid.
Super high on Jack and Gabriel Bonfim
Welterweight grew slightly stagnant there for a bit, but man it really is a solid weight class these days with a lot of great talent coming up through the ranks. I wouldn't say it's as stacked as, say, Bantamweight but IMO it's the most talent-rich of the "heavy" weight classes in the UFC. Once you go up to 185 and above the depth of talent drops off pretty severely despite the presence of a few solid mainstays and prospects up there.
he needs a ranked opponent, Magny or Chiesa.
Neil Magny already has a dance partner in D-Rod. Wouldn't be opposed to seeing him get the loser of that fight, though. Chiesa currently has nothing on the horizon so far as we know and little negotiating power to boot -- IMO given that Jack fended off Ramazan's takedown and a deep sub attempt I don't know that Mike would have much for him. It would become more of a game of whether Chiesa's absurd chin endures to see the scorecards. Either way there are arguably more deserving Welterweights of those fights on longer win streaks in the UFC even if I don't think they have the same ceiling as Jack.
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Welterweight grew slightly stagnant there for a bit, but man it really is a solid weight class these days with a lot of great talent coming up through the ranks. I wouldn't say it's as stacked as, say, Bantamweight but IMO it's the most talent-rich of the "heavy" weight classes in the UFC. Once you go up to 185 and above the depth of talent drops off pretty severely despite the presence of a few solid mainstays and prospects up there.
Neil Magny already has a dance partner in D-Rod. Wouldn't be opposed to seeing him get the loser of that fight, though. Chiesa currently has nothing on the horizon so far as we know and little negotiating power to boot -- IMO given that Jack fended off Ramazan's takedown and a deep sub attempt I don't know that Mike would have much for him. It would become more of a game of whether Chiesa's absurd chin endures to see the scorecards. Either way there are arguably more deserving Welterweights of those fights on longer win streaks in the UFC even if I don't think they have the same ceiling as Jack.
I think when it comes to talent per division in UFC it is currently
1. Lightweight
2. Bantamweight
3. Welterweight
4. Featherweight
Far drop off
5. Middleweight
6. Flyweight
7. Light Heavyweight
8. Heavyweight
Not hating but I'm not bothered with women's MMA. Featherweight and Welterweight both stagnated for a while there, which is funny because outside of the UFC there's always so many damn good FWs and WWs the UFC seems to struggle signing. I think WW and FW flip flop back and forth. I actually like Flyweight but the UFC doesn't seem to care about it, if they did we'd still have Horiguchi and Mighty Mouse in the UFC all these years making the title picture so much more interesting and there's a lot of unsigned Flyweight talent out of Kazakhstan specifically which is odd with Asu Almbaev, Azat Maksum and Kairat for those years in one but his time has passed. Tatsuo Taira is very exciting and it's truly a shame Lineker couldn't keep making the weight and Cejudo left. Just feels like Flyweight could be so much better than it is.
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Safton said:
Welterweight grew slightly stagnant there for a bit, but man it really is a solid weight class these days with a lot of great talent coming up through the ranks. I wouldn't say it's as stacked as, say, Bantamweight but IMO it's the most talent-rich of the "heavy" weight classes in the UFC. Once you go up to 185 and above the depth of talent drops off pretty severely despite the presence of a few solid mainstays and prospects up there.
Neil Magny already has a dance partner in D-Rod. Wouldn't be opposed to seeing him get the loser of that fight, though. Chiesa currently has nothing on the horizon so far as we know and little negotiating power to boot -- IMO given that Jack fended off Ramazan's takedown and a deep sub attempt I don't know that Mike would have much for him. It would become more of a game of whether Chiesa's absurd chin endures to see the scorecards. Either way there are arguably more deserving Welterweights of those fights on longer win streaks in the UFC even if I don't think they have the same ceiling as Jack.
D-rod is out of the magny fight unfortunately.
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HuskySamoan said:
I think when it comes to talent per division in UFC it is currently
1. Lightweight
2. Bantamweight
3. Welterweight
4. Featherweight
Far drop off
5. Middleweight
6. Flyweight
7. Light Heavyweight
8. HeavyweightNot hating but I'm not bothered with women's MMA. Featherweight and Welterweight both stagnated for a while there, which is funny because outside of the UFC there's always so many damn good FWs and WWs the UFC seems to struggle signing. I think WW and FW flip flop back and forth. I actually like Flyweight but the UFC doesn't seem to care about it, if they did we'd still have Horiguchi and Mighty Mouse in the UFC all these years making the title picture so much more interesting and there's a lot of unsigned Flyweight talent out of Kazakhstan specifically which is odd with Asu Almbaev, Azat Maksum and Kairat for those years in one but his time has passed. Tatsuo Taira is very exciting and it's truly ashamed Lineker couldn't keep making the weight and Cejudo left. Just feels like Flyweight could be so much better than it is.
Ufc temporarily removing the flyweight division just to bring it back didnt help them grow the division at all. It really seems like that division could flourish big time if the ufc invested in it, just they just don't....it's really weird.
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fortheo said:
D-rod is out of the mangy fight unfortunately.
What about Leech vs Jack? Honestly I don't think they're going to give Jack a big fight but I hope they do.
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fortheo said:
D-rod is out of the magny fight unfortunately.
Damn, didn't hear about that. I was actually interested in seeing how that played out stylistically, but not as upset as I could be seeing as how D-Rod won a gifted Decision. Well, Magny has plenty of options for upcoming deserving guys in any case. Pereira, Morono, Brown, Garry, Maddalena, Battle, etc.
HuskySamoan said:
I think when it comes to talent per division in UFC it is currently
1. Lightweight
2. Bantamweight
3. Welterweight
4. Featherweight
Far drop off
5. Middleweight
6. Flyweight
7. Light Heavyweight
8. Heavyweight
I can't really disagree too much with any of these. I don't see any of the Top 4 divisions I would switch with the bottom 4 which is IMO what matters and after that it becomes highly subjective bordering on the semantics of talent. I personally might tweak the positions of a few of those within each group by a few slots but that's it.
Not hating but I'm not bothered with women's MMA. Featherweight and Welterweight both stagnated for a while there, which is funny because outside of the UFC there's always so many damn good FWs and WWs the UFC seems to struggle signing. I think WW and FW flip flop back and forth. I actually like Flyweight but the UFC doesn't seem to care about it, if they did we'd still have Horiguchi and Mighty Mouse in the UFC all these years making the title picture so much more interesting and there's a lot of unsigned Flyweight talent out of Kazakhstan specifically which is odd with Asu Almbaev, Azat Maksum and Kairat for those years in one but his time has passed. Tatsuo Taira is very exciting and it's truly a shame Lineker couldn't keep making the weight and Cejudo left. Just feels like Flyweight could be so much better than it is.
It still makes me damn sad that Mighty Mouse is no longer in the UFC. The idea of him fighting the new crop of Flyweights like Figgy, Moreno, Askarov, Kara-France, and my guy Pantoja over the last several years... that would have really been something. One of the more depressing "what-ifs" in UFC history for me, right up there with the mythical Khabib vs. Tony or GSP vs. Silva Superfight in my opinion. ONE laughed all the way to the bank on that one in hindsight.
When it comes to WMMA I have completely different talent rankings than the men's divisions.
1.) Strawweight
2.) Flyweight
Notable Drop-off
3.) Bantamweight
Cavernous Drop-off
4.) Featherweight
I think it's borderline impossible to conflate MMA and WMMA power rankings and not particularly favorable to the latter honestly. I say this as someone who watches most WMMA fights on UFC cards and follows many of the fighters, but objectively the depth of talent just still isn't there quite yet. I don't see anyone as hating to say that it's not their interest and I would never hold it against them.
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The_Renaissance said:
Khaos Williams would be an awesome opponent.
Yikes. That khaos dude puts people to sleep bad. Isn't Jack young,? Not sure if that's the right way to test a kid
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Yikes. That khaos dude puts people to sleep bad. Isn't Jack young,? Not sure if that's the right way to test a kid
I feel like you haven't seen Jack Della fight, he'd light Khaos up like a Christmas tree.
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As long as there's no silly decision to have him fight jake Mathews I'm pumped to see his next fight. Regardless of opponent
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HuskySamoan said:
I feel like you haven't seen Jack Della fight, he'd light Khaos up like a Christmas tree.
Seen him a few times. Point still stands.
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